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Observed by Greg on Wed, Jun 06 2007

This bike lane is a heavily trafficked lane by cyclists and is rarely ever empty of cars parked in it.

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1 paraderest

Posted on Thu, Jul 12 2007 at 01:44 PM

It appears that the new asphalt obstructs the markings of the bike lane. Is it possible that this guy can't tell it's a bike lane?

2 bowood

Posted on Thu, Jul 12 2007 at 01:48 PM

There are signs and lane markers all the way down this road. Is it possible that you don't commute by bicycle down this road?

3 paraderest

Posted on Thu, Jul 12 2007 at 02:12 PM

Despite most of my posts, I don't approve of people parking in the bike lane but I give this guy the benefit of the doubt. The markings are obstructed and he has his turn signal on. Is he trying to parallel park?

4 bowood

Posted on Thu, Jul 12 2007 at 02:17 PM

Why do you feel compelled to defend strangers who jeopardize the lives of others and whose infractions are being documented by their victims?

5 paraderest

Posted on Fri, Jul 13 2007 at 01:11 AM

Because this is poor documentation. Tell Greg to take better pictures next time.

How many bicyclists have died this year by being forced to venture out of the bike lane? I don't know the number but I'm curious. I don't think any. Is your life really being jeopardized because you have to look behind you to change lanes? I have to do that in my car and I never get killed or get into accidents.

6 bowood

Posted on Fri, Jul 13 2007 at 10:47 AM

Record numbers of cyclists are being killed year after year in this city. Most are killed due to bad cycling habits that force them to bicycle unpredictably and break laws. For example it is illegal for a cyclist to bicycle outside of a bicycle lane on a street with a bicycle lane, but routinely they must do this because of your denial of a problem.

Two cyclists were killed in the last year in the dedicated concrete barrier separated bicycle lane going up the Hudson river:

"And yet, here in New York, we even have the debate over bicycle traffic backwards. We focus on drivers’ complaints about the bicycle commuter who races through red lights, rather than on the concerns of the mother biking her child around organic-food delivery trucks that idle in bike-only lanes. In December, the police say, a bicyclist was killed on the Hudson River Greenway by a drunken driver speeding along a bike lane that was completely separated from the road. Asked what was being done to improve safety in light of the biker’s death, Mayor Michael Bloomberg suggested that bikers 'pay attention.'"

The alternative is good old fashion force. I.e. kicking mirrors off of cars and bicycle locks put through windows. Maybe you would prefer such things, but orderly traffic shouldn't require it.

7 Greg

Posted on Fri, Jul 13 2007 at 11:16 AM

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It is a bad picture. I so apologize, but this is about the best I can do w/ my camera phone. Rest assured, this street is clearly marked (feel free to go check it out) and this guy knew what he was doing (I believe he told me to f*ck off when I rolled up next to him and asked him if he could move his van out of the bike lane).

8 paraderest

Posted on Fri, Jul 13 2007 at 11:18 AM

You're using an extreme example with the drunk driver. You went from cars parked in the bike lane to drunk drivers. I'm not denying that drunk drivers cause great danger on our roadways but the not only kill bicyclists but other motorists and pedestrians as well.

9 bowood

Posted on Fri, Jul 13 2007 at 11:36 AM

The car in the bike lane I quoted from the Times was driven by a drunk driver. They were very much in the bike lane. It would be charitable to assume most cars in the bike lane are parked by drunk drivers, but on Friday night it often feels that way. Why else would they park in a bicycle lane?

Death is extreme.

10 Greg

Posted on Fri, Jul 13 2007 at 07:49 PM

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The drunk driver he was referring to was not on our roadways, but was driving down a MUP Greenway, and the cyclists killed was the 2nd cyclist run over by a car on that greenway that year.

However, agreed that drunk drivers are a problem all their own. That does not lessen the danger to cyclist by cars parked in the bike lane. I don't think it is fair or valid to say that most cyclist killed each year are due to cyclists mistakes though. Do you have proof to back that up bowood?

11 bowood

Posted on Fri, Jul 13 2007 at 08:20 PM

I learned of the "most injured due to bad cycling" statistic from a presentation by the League of American Cyclists at the DOT "State of Cycling" conference a few years ago. I can probably hunt down the presentation off of their website if you are interested.

They had done an analysis of accident reports involving cars and bicycles and tried to classify the situations. The shocking stat was how few cyclists are hit from behind. Most accidents happen in front of the cyclist. I.e. plowing into a turning car, hitting a door, or swerving out into traffic. The diagrams indicate that behaving like a "normal" vehicle sharing the road reduces risk substantially.

The idea of "wear a helmet" and "ride on the sidewalk" increased fatalities drastically by creating a generation of cyclists who run lights, conflict with pedestrians, are timid in traffic, ride too close to parked cars, and generally put themselves in dangerous situations.

12 bowood

Posted on Fri, Jul 13 2007 at 08:22 PM

One last note. Most of the pictures I submit are from the Greenway style divided bike lane on Tillary St in Brooklyn. These jerks drive, idle, park, and otherwise abuse *MY* greenway lane!

13 paraderest

Posted on Mon, Jul 16 2007 at 05:20 PM

It's amazing that the city sold the bike lane to you. Are you responsible for maintaince now or will the city still provide sanitation services and DOT services for your greenway lane?

14 Greg

Posted on Mon, Jul 16 2007 at 09:51 PM

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I would say the greenways are paid for by tax payers of the city and not meant for automobile traffic.

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